Monday, February 13, 2006

Absence of responsibility...

KCNA Blasts U.S. Gimmick to Evade Responsibility for Deadlocked Talks
Pyongyang, February 11, 2006 (KCNA) -- The United States is now busy floating fictions of "smuggling of fake cigarettes" and "smuggling of drugs" in a bid to achieve a sinister purpose, not content with peddling the lie about "counterfeit notes." Shortly ago, a White House spokesman blustered that the U.S. would never tolerate north Korea's involvement in illegal activities, referring to the reports of American newspapers to the effect that "fake cigarettes" made in north Korea are on sale in American markets. Meanwhile, the U.S. secretary of defense said that the prospect of the resumption of the six-party talks remains gloomy because the DPRK is acting against all logic and sanity regarding the U.S. financial sanctions, uttering that counterfeit notes, drug smuggling and sale of missile technology are north Korea's main source of revenue. Uhhhh? Well? What the FUCK does North Korea export then?!?!? Underlying these outbursts is the U.S. foolish and mean awwww! attempt to tarnish the international image of the DPRK and shift the responsibility for the stalled six-party talks on to it at any cost. The responsibility for the six-party talks EXISTING is North Korea's... What the U.S. conservative hard-liners seek is to delay the six-party talks under any pretext, escalate the tension on the Korean Peninsula and thus draw water to its mill to meet its own political interests. If they wanted to "meet political interests", they would have gone the "face-saving" way of Clinton. They fabricated something new and deliberately created an obstacle to the talks prompted by such way of thinking whenever there was a sign of their progress. They cooked up the story of "counterfeit notes" and kicked up the row for sanctions against their dialogue partner even before the ink got dry on the joint statement adopted at the fourth round of the six-party talks, spoiling the atmosphere of the talks. The Bush administration held a briefing on the "counterfeit notes" of the DPRK in Washington last December but failed to produce any clear evidence. This proved (How does one "prove" anything, by the ABSENCE of evidence?) that it was nothing but a farce. It is a true nature peculiar to the U.S. to spread sheer lies and interfere in the internal affairs of other countries and realize its attempt at aggression on their basis. A clear proof of this was the brigandish armed invasion launched by the Bush administration against Iraq on the basis of its false information. All information regarding every element of Iraq's brutal tyranny was bang-on... As it is with North Korea, I am sure. That was why the "unbiased" international public opinion dismissed the stories about "smuggling of fake cigarettes" and "drug smuggling" and the like spread by U.S. media as a stereo-typed lie faked up by the U.S. ruling quarters and is demanding the U.S. immediately lift sanctions against the DPRK. Uhhh, no. The U.S. gimmick to mislead the public opinion by spreading more lies while defying such demand will never convince the international community. The United States of America can't rely on the international community for anything but "UNbiased" talk...

16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"(How does one "prove" anything, by the ABSENCE of evidence?)"

Exactly. How does America "prove" all this without any evidence?

"All information regarding every element of Iraq's brutal tyranny was bang-on"

HA!

What: WMD, the 45 minute claim, the moving labs, the "line" where the attacking forces would be attacked by Saddam's WMD?!

"Winning hearts and minds", "greeted with flowers" and "Al Qaeda terrorist training camps"?!

Don't make me laugh! It was a complete farce! That's why they CAN'T be trusted on North Korea!

"The United States of America can't rely on the international community for anything but "UNbiased" talk..."

Oh right, because the international community is always wrong, and America is always right?

This is actually quite scary. Unilaterally, blindly, supporting America without question is a fanatical belief on the other end of the political scale of the Kims.

Do you ever question what they do? Or are they always right? Do they always promote "democracy", "freedom" and "good", in the face of "evil" and "tyranny"?

1:31 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"Exactly. How does America "prove" all this without any evidence?"
Well, let's just say that counterfeiting is of minor concequence compared to the oppresion North Koreans suffer from everyday.

"What: WMD, the 45 minute claim, the moving labs, the "line" where the attacking forces would be attacked by Saddam's WMD?!"
Are you talking about the Iran/Iraq war or Halabja?????????

"Winning hearts and minds", "greeted with flowers"
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003552.html

"the international community is always wrong, and America is always right?" The Un always talks, the U.S is the only entity willing to try and tackle challenges. Without the U.S, the U.N would lose half of it's funding.

"Don't make me laugh! It was a complete farce!"
Yea, ya know what IS a complete farce AND makes me laugh?
The fact that two years ago, Kofi Annan said the U.S invasion of Iraq was "illegal"... NOW, Kofi can't suck America's dick fast enough, in the attempt to get more nessisary MILITARY INTERVENTION in Sudan...
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N13278815.htm

"Do you ever question what they do?" Yes, but rarely...

"Or are they always right?"
Of course not. The intention always is...

"Do they always promote "democracy", "freedom" and "good", in the face of "evil" and "tyranny"?"
Yes, the Bush administration does. No, the Clinton administration never did.

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well, let's just say that counterfeiting is of minor concequence compared to the oppresion North Koreans suffer from everyday."

You really are fantastic at avoiding the question. Another great side step. Back to the question: how does America prove this without any evidence?

""What: WMD, the 45 minute claim, the moving labs, the "line" where the attacking forces would be attacked by Saddam's WMD?!"
Are you talking about the Iran/Iraq war or Halabja?????????"

What do you think I'm talking about? None of the above was found to be true, at all. The information was NOT spot on, as you claim.

"http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003552.html"

Lol. One link? Is that an argument? Compared to the riots, resistance, and popular discontent, that is nothing.

""the international community is always wrong, and America is always right?" The Un always talks, the U.S is the only entity willing to try and tackle challenges. Without the U.S, the U.N would lose half of it's funding."

But that's not the point. America can't go round acting by itself- where is its mandate to go round bombing the shit out of whoever they want? Oh, sorry, they don't need a mandate, because they are chosen by God.

"Yea, ya know what IS a complete farce AND makes me laugh?
The fact that two years ago, Kofi Annan said the U.S invasion of Iraq was "illegal"... NOW, Kofi can't suck America's dick fast enough, in the attempt to get more nessisary MILITARY INTERVENTION in Sudan..."

What's with the constant avoiding of the question?

The Iraq war, by ALL international definition, was illegal. The Sudan war hasn't happened, and has nothing to do with Iraq. The basis of the Iraq war was a farce, back to the original point.

""Do you ever question what they do?" Yes, but rarely..."

So you are perhaps a percentage point less fanatic than the Kim's followers then. I find it highly ironic and hyppocritical.

""Do they always promote "democracy", "freedom" and "good", in the face of "evil" and "tyranny"?"
Yes, the Bush administration does. No, the Clinton administration never did. "

How about countries like Turkmenistan and Saudi Arabia, whose aid has increased, despite having horrific human rights records?

Why did America attack Iraq, and not Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that the majority of the 11/9 hijackers were actually Arabian? It couldn't be anything to do with oil, could it? It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that America doesn't give a shit about human rights, it's only looking out for in IT'S OWN INTERESTS.

Although, why I'm having this debate is beyond me. It's like me blindly defending Germany, or (shock, horror)France.

11:59 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"You really are fantastic at avoiding the question. Another great side step"
Let me spell it out for ya CRYmru...
I DON'T GIVE A fuck, about fake cigarrettes...

"What do you think I'm talking about? None of the above was found to be true, at all. The information was NOT spot on, as you claim."
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003558.html

"So you are perhaps a percentage point less fanatic than the Kim's followers then. I find it highly ironic and hyppocritical."
"Iron"ic perhaps, hypocritical no.
I have never claimed to be anything less than a Right-wing fanatic. I enjoy being Right...

The Iraq war, by ALL international definition, was illegal."
It was more Righteous than it was legal.

"The Sudan war hasn't happened,"
Seems like it will...
"and has nothing to do with Iraq."
There are similarities.

"The basis of the Iraq war was a farce, back to the original point."
I agree. Human Rights should have been the reason for war. As with Sudan...

"Why did America attack Iraq, and not Saudi Arabia,"
Democracy will spill upon the Sauds, rest assured.

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""You really are fantastic at avoiding the question. Another great side step"
Let me spell it out for ya CRYmru...
I DON'T GIVE A fuck, about fake cigarrettes..."

Well it didn't appear that way until I bought it up.

"http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/003558.html"

Right. One paragraph, reporting they are using a video as evidence? It's pretty slim isn't it?

"I have never claimed to be anything less than a Right-wing fanatic.

Exactly! So you are exactly the same as devout followers and defenders of the Kims, except you are right wing.

"I enjoy being Right..."

Utterly chidlish semantics.

""The Sudan war hasn't happened,"
Seems like it will..."

Can you see into the future?

"and has nothing to do with Iraq."
There are similarities."

If there are similarities, then why hasn't America gone in and saved the day with good intentions, as they always do?

"The Iraq war, by ALL international definition, was illegal."
It was more Righteous than it was legal."

No, it was ILLEGAL. Being righteous is quasi religious bollocks. It is not objective.

""The basis of the Iraq war was a farce, back to the original point."
I agree. Human Rights should have been the reason for war. As with Sudan..."

So you agree that the basis of war in Iraq was a farce? That your beloved Bush misled you?

""Why did America attack Iraq, and not Saudi Arabia,"
Democracy will spill upon the Sauds, rest assured. "

How? It sure won't be through American invasion though, will it? They're America's buddies! They have oil!

8:07 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"Exactly! So you are exactly the same as devout followers and defenders of the Kims,"
Uhhhhh, Exactly", except you are right wing." Which means the exact OPPOSITE of what Kim Jong Il stands for...

So you agree that the basis of war in Iraq was a farce?"
No, I agree that the WMD were not in Iraq. All other elements of Saddamm's brutal regime were, such as the MASS fucking GRAVES.

"why hasn't America gone in and saved the day with good intentions, as they always do?"
Logistics. When military intervention arrives in Sudan, America will be leading it. You know that CRYmru...

Democracy will spill upon the Sauds,
"It sure won't be through American invasion though, will it?"
No, it will be through American political and cultural influence. How long will the people of Saudi Arabia continue to watch their Arab neighbors liberated by America's ideology of freedom, before they demand the same freedom for themselves?

"They're America's buddies! They have oil!"
Saudi Arabia has important similarites with Alberta. No?

9:44 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

No, it was ILLEGAL. Being righteous is quasi religious bollocks." Would it make a difference if I told you I'm an atheist? Probably not...

"It is not objective."
Nor was the RESULT of the war ojectionable. Bush's presidency has already massivly and positivly affected Middle East society. By 2020, people will only ponder what it was like having the Middle East in total disorder, the same way people today wonder what is was like having most of Europe under communist tyranny...

9:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Which means the exact OPPOSITE of what Kim Jong Il stands for..."

But you are an unquestioning fanatic. The same as Juche followers....

"No, I agree that the WMD were not in Iraq. All other elements of Saddamm's brutal regime were, such as the MASS fucking GRAVES."

But why did they invade Iraq in front of other countries if he wasn't a threat to the international community, as was paraded? Nothing to do with oil, is it....?

"Logistics. When military intervention arrives in Sudan, America will be leading it. You know that CRYmru... "

THis is based on assumption. How do we know this? And also, what does CRYmru mean? Is it meant to be insulting, because I have no idea what it means. Or is it just a typo, repeated in every post?

"No, it will be through American political and cultural influence. How long will the people of Saudi Arabia continue to watch their Arab neighbors liberated by America's ideology of freedom, before they demand the same freedom for themselves?"

Lol. There hasn't been much pushing from America's side. I wonder why. Plus, America's hardly popular in the Middle East- will all the Middle East really want American style "freedom"?

"Saudi Arabia has important similarites with Alberta. No? "

Er. Please enlighten me.

"Would it make a difference if I told you I'm an atheist? Probably not..."

No, it wouldn't, because the whole idea of righteousness is flawed because it is based on religious good vs evil concepts, and very subjective for a view of the world.

"Nor was the RESULT of the war ojectionable."

What has this got to do with being objective?

"Bush's presidency has already massivly and positivly affected Middle East society."

Some positives have come about, but anti-American sentiment has risen unbeliveably, due to incidents like Abu Ghraib, and Guantanmo Bay....

"By 2020, people will only ponder what it was like having the Middle East in total disorder, the same way people today wonder what is was like having most of Europe under communist tyranny..."

We will see. That's a very big assumption to make. Do you really think that America is interested in the Middle East because of its lack of democracy? Or could it be something else?

3:01 PM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"The same as Juche followers...."
The opposite.

"But why did they invade Iraq" "Nothing to do with oil, is it....?"
Iraqi Oil can now be legally sold on the international market. One of the infinite reasons why it was a liberation and not an invasion.

"Some positives have come about, but"
but but but what ya little crybitch?????

"anti-American sentiment has risen unbeliveably, due to incidents like Abu Ghraib, and Guantanmo Bay...." *sob* awwwww! I thought some Danish cartoons was the latest Muslim crymeafuckingriver story. If you really think Abu and Gitmo are gonna hold back U.S foriegn policy, have fun with that opinion.

Saudi Arabia has important similarites with Alberta. No?
"Er. Please enlighten me."
"They're America's buddies! They have oil!"

3:38 PM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"No, it wouldn't, because the whole idea of righteousness is flawed because it is based on religious good vs evil concepts, and very subjective for a view of the world."

I suppose you are one of those pussies that live "in the grey"...
People from all over the world want to become Americans.
North Korea is one the worst countries to live in. If not THE worst.
Do you not see the difference CRYmru?

4:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The opposite."

But as fanatical. As possibly hyppocritical.

"Iraqi Oil can now be legally sold on the international market. One of the infinite reasons why it was a liberation and not an invasion."

You think America invaded so the Iraqs could sell on the market? It's so Ameica can buy it themselves! You really think America is that altruistic?

""Some positives have come about, but"
but but but what ya little crybitch?????"

WHat is it with you and pointless interruption, halfway through a sentence. Can you not make it to the end of a sentence?!

"awwwww! I thought some Danish cartoons was the latest Muslim crymeafuckingriver story. If you really think Abu and Gitmo are gonna hold back U.S foriegn policy, have fun with that opinion."

SO you obviously have a low opinion of Muslims. I think that says a lot.

I'm not saying that these things will stop American policy, but surely America should be a bit more careful when it comes to cultural sensitivites?

Oh, sorry, American culture is all that matters. It is the top of the world, and everybody should be like them.

Whats the difference between America and yoghurt....?

After a while, yoghurt develops culture....

"Saudi Arabia has important similarites with Alberta. No?
"Er. Please enlighten me."
"They're America's buddies! They have oil!" "

I think there are some slight differences between Alberta and Arabia. Namely human rights, and its strategical location....

"I suppose you are one of those pussies that live "in the grey"..."

No, I'm one of "those pussies" who realise there is a grey,and the whole world isnt black and white, unlike you.

"People from all over the world want to become Americans.
North Korea is one the worst countries to live in. If not THE worst."

A very sweeping statement! You think everybody wants to be American?!

Perhaps if you had left North America and actually SPOKEN to other people, then you would realise that this iscomplete bollox!

And i know DPRK is bad. Have I ever said otherwise? Why do you think that? Because of your whole "black and white" ideas?

"Do you not see the difference CRYmru? "

What between America and DPRK? Of course I do.

And please, who or what is CRYmru? Is it an insult?

I have no idea what it could possibly mean.

6:11 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

"You think America invaded so the Iraqs could sell on the market?"
It's one of the many reasons, yes...
"It's so Ameica can buy it themselves!"
Without having to deal with U.N corruption...

"but surely America should be a bit more careful when it comes to cultural sensitivites?"
Yea, and violent muslim culture is SO so senstitive and TOLERANT towards other cultures. Cry about it some more, CRYmru...

"Whats the difference between America and yoghurt....? After a while, yoghurt develops culture...."
We spell it yogurt in Canada, and I find this joke ironic, as a Canadian... Considering that Canadians have a hard time isolating purely CANADIAN culture, when powerful and intrusive American Culture dominates our country.Watched any American Movies this week CRYmru? Bet ya did. I sure as FUCK don't watch many British(or Canadian) movies...

A very sweeping statement!"
Very accurate too.
"You think everybody wants to be American?!" Many many people from every country in the world do. Am I wrong?

"And i know DPRK is bad."
And I know the sky is blue, dipship. What the fuck is your point?

10:53 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

Oh and by the way CRYmru,
North Korea has little need for "freeze-drying", as the country has little need for food "storage"...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5626218,00.html

12:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's one of the many reasons, yes... "

I truly don't believe that America is so altruistic.

"Without having to deal with U.N corruption..."

So one of the reasons for war was to end U.N corruption you are telling me?

"Yea, and violent muslim culture is SO so senstitive and TOLERANT towards other cultures."

Do two wrongs make a right? Shouldn't America be the "beacon of freedom and democracy"? Or should they not practice what they preach?

"Cry about it some more, CRYmru..."

Oh, so that's what your name calling is about.

Quite pathetic, isn't it?

"We spell it yogurt in Canada, and I find this joke ironic, as a Canadian... Considering that Canadians have a hard time isolating purely CANADIAN culture, when powerful and intrusive American Culture dominates our country.Watched any American Movies this week CRYmru? Bet ya did. I sure as FUCK don't watch many British(or Canadian) movies..."

Aw. It was only a joke.

I know American culture is taking over. My culture and language is fighting against worldwide Anglo-Saxon domination.

It's just that I don't really consider Hollywood films of big explosions, dumbed down story lines and crap actors as particularly "cultural".

"A very sweeping statement!"
Very accurate too."

Right. As you don;t have any proof, I won't believe that one bit.

"You think everybody wants to be American?!" Many many people from every country in the world do. Am I wrong?"

No. But many people in every country in the world also very much dislike America. No?

"http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5626218,00.html "

Great. Let's see how this suspected case works out.

Much like your "proof" of Saddam's WMD's. Lol.

Or are you just going to call me names and swear at me again?!

4:40 AM  
Blogger KnightofGoodMrIronMan said...

Do two wrongs make a right?
One Right breaks a wrong.

"Shouldn't America be the "beacon of freedom and democracy"?"
They are. If not who is?

"Or should they not practice what they preach?" They do. Otherwise, who does?

"Aw. It was only a joke."
I didn't get it.

"I know American culture is taking over. My culture and language is fighting against worldwide Anglo-Saxon domination." Ya cry about it all like it's a BAD thing.

CRYmru: *sob* The language I speak is the monst popular, and all of the entertainment I enjoy, which is premium standard by a longshot... Is produced in English.
I have to "live with" that. *cry*

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Do two wrongs make a right?
One Right breaks a wrong."

What? But if America are 'being a wrong', as they are, then this has nothing to do with the argument.

Or is it another pathetic pun?

Or is it the height of your argumentative skills?

"They are. If not who is?"

Again, you are going off the point. America should respect Muslim values, as they are "the beacon of freedom and democracy". You were arguing as if they shouldn't respect Muslims. Which goes against the above statement.

"They do. Otherwise, who does?"

Well if they don't respect Muslims as you were suggesting above, then they obviously don't, do they?

""Aw. It was only a joke."
I didn't get it."

I can't say I'm surprised....

"Ya cry about it all like it's a BAD thing. "

So you are telling me that Anglo-Saxon culture should be the dominant one, and that no other cultures deserve to survive?

"CRYmru: *sob* The language I speak is the monst popular, and all of the entertainment I enjoy, which is premium standard by a longshot... Is produced in English.
I have to "live with" that. *cry* "

Great. Well done on your language. Does that mean others shouldn't survive?

By the way, what is with all the emotion, the *crying*?

What is with calling me CRYmru?

I mean, puns in an argument are pathetic, let alone totally shit ones.

4:37 AM  

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